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As a referee and coach it is working but it should be like rugby and called VR(video referee) when it goes to video when they make the call they should then tell referee what offence is and that should be it instead of going upstairs then back to referee who then go to the telly off pitch
My name is Sasa .Already member os WCC a long time. I can say that i have enough professional experience and quaprofessional qualifications qualifications
that give me a righ to say that VAR took away the sense of reality what football needs to be .
I agree with you .
Thank you
While I agree with you on the offside, I think the problem is that the flow of the game is seriously interrupted and there are big swings in emotion among supporters. Take the second leg of the Champions League quarter final between Manchester City and Tottenham. It looked like City had scored with two minutes left in the game, tying it up at 4-4 and putting City through on aggregate. Then the reversal. When the flag goes up, everyone can see that a judgment has been made. Now I agree that the reversal calls have been correct but some have been very tight–for example the England Netherlands semi final in the Nations League. If it is so tight that a human wouldn’t see it, then there is something of a too-close-to-call aspect of the play. Now ARs are keeping the flag down even when a play is clearly offside, which is just creating more issues. We need the equivalent of an offside hawk-eye system (no one complains about the goal-line decision mechanisms) and maybe with developments in AI it will come in a few years. Until then VAR is going to cause complaints.
I like VAR because it will get more right decisions than wrong. Must be done quicker . I agree that both offside decisions were right to the letter of the law and the Cameroon players should have been booked for arguing and holding up game. The 3 decisions it failed on I agree with you . Sending off for deliberate elbow . Penalty for stamping on foot and dangerous late tackle red card . What’s worrying is that who ever was making Var decisions didn’t flag deliberate elbow and the other two incidents. Referee and assistants to blame for those incidents too.
At moment VAR is running the game.
Any decision to use VAR should be called by the on pitch officials
NOT as is at moment the tv watching officials.
Or maybe I could fone up and ask the ref to review something I disagree with.
On pitch officials should regain control of the game.
I like VAR because it will get more right decisions than wrong. Must be done quicker . I agree that both offside decisions were right to the letter of the law and the Cameroon players should have been booked for arguing and holding up game. The 3 decisions it failed on I agree with you . Sending off for deliberate elbow . Penalty for stamping on foot and dangerous late tackle red card . Referee and assistants to blame for those incidents too.
My biggest issue with VAR is the amount of time it takes (stoppage of play, interruption to flow of the game), especially when the referee makes the original call and call is confirmed correct. Many of the decisions such as Offside calls can be seen in real time, and the AR and Referee get the call right from the beginning yet VAR takes several minutes to look at every angle only to confirm the call made on the field. If the evidence is not clear and convincing in less than a minute then go with the call on the field and move on. There should not be 7+ minutes of stoppage time in a half all because VAR is taking too long to re-confirm calls the Referee has already made.
I totally agree with your position on the VAR issue and the recommendations suggested.
God bless you sir.
You miss one vital point as I understand it.
VAR has been introduced to eliminate clear and obvious errors and not marginal decisions or decisions of opinion. Most of the cases you mention are not clear and obvious errors. The biggest one being the disallowed Cameroon goal, it’s the minutest fraction offside. Yes it is offside but that is not the point of VAR plus while I know the England 2nd goal wasn’t offside according to law. It has to be more offside under VAR than the Cameroon’s goal
Mike, I tend to agree with you, especially the Cameroon-England match. You didn’t mention the spitting incident either, which the referee didn’t want to hear. I will end by saying what I think is not being said about VAR, and that in the end it’s all left up to a human to decide. Humans are going to error, because we’re human. VAR lays it out for a decision to be made or not made. In the end, it comes right back to the referee to make. Overall, it needs tweaking, but I think it’s good for the game once that happens. Thanks!
I really dislike the way VAR is being used. It is training the refs and assistant refs NOT to make calls. Repeatedly we have heard how AR’s are told NOT to call offside because it will be reviewed if they score anyway. Numerous times there have been moments where the game was stopped not because of a call, but a VAR on something that the center didn’t call.
The game really has lost its flow, and eventually there will be no refs if they continue to NOT make calls simply because VAR will review.
here is my fix: VAR is used only on reviewing ACTUAL calls. This forces the refs to be refs, and allows for VAR to limit their scope and keeps the game flowing. This is mostly consistent with the way other sports use it, too.
Finally, I would also institute a post-game review (as you suggested) to catch and fine/suspend anything that WASN’T caught by the refs. But we need to keep the refs relevant and part of the game.
I agree with your comments. I also believe that the the NFL and Tennis have done this for long enough for FIFA to change some rules. VAR spoiled the ENG v CAM game. And I am English.
1. Stick with referee’s decision unless the video replay gives clear evidence to overturn it.
2. Managers have three challenges or calls for VAR in the game. One in extra time.
3. VAR should be used if a goal is scored, as it is now.
4. If the referees miss a call, unless the Manager uses one of her cards, VAR should not be used.
That’s what I think.
No, The Human Element of the game has been taken out of the game. Players make bad decisions and so do the referees! Before long they will rid themselves of Referees and use AI. This is bad for the game, as it has slowed the pace of play. Should only be used for confirming goals.
Hi Mike
Yes – I’m having problems with the judgement calls as well because here in Australia the non-soccer football codes also take the approach that the referee’s call stands unless there is clear evidence to the contrary. The same approach is also used in world cricket by all the international teams, i.e. the ruling mst be CLEARLY wrong for it to be overturned.
And other situations where no action was taken at the WWC include the opposition player spitting on the English player and a clear hint of a handball by a Norwegian player in the box against Australia (where no VAR was even used).
regards Michael
The Offside VAR calls which I think have been incorrect have been the ones where the offside player has been judged to be not active/interferring with play. One was the last USA group game, a player was offside next to the centrespot, this caused the defender to take action. But as play progressed this action led to a goal.
Another was the own goal vs Australia, the defender had to make the header (into own next unfortunately) because the Australia striker was in a challenging position, therefore active/interfering
USA 2nd penalty vs Spain. I don’t think VAR clarified whether there had been “sufficient” contact to warrant a foul
/penalty.
Certainly the offside / active rule needs to be clarified, because the defenders react if a striker is close.
Late flagging by linesmen is also an issue in my opinion
I personally feel VAR has given referees a chance to cheat even more. It has been said the calls should be undisputed. But there are still calls where I’m left wondering what the referee saw.
To me VAR has been frustrating, my biggest problem is that outcomes have been depending on these calls. Some of them I would have made a different call and feel bad for the teams that it went against. I understand there may be bugs but should have been ironed it out before the World Cup. I think this is an embaressment for FIFA. I wouldn’t quite put the NFL on a pedestal. just ask the New Orleans Saints.